Heroes and Villians

[aethwolf]

I been in this town so long that back in the city I'd been taken as lost and gone in a town full of heroes and villains...
Enough Beach Boys. This is about a comic continuity.
Working-Class Wizard: rolan_snyder
Aeth: Myself (D'uh!)

Working-Class Wizard says:
I think we should collaborate on a comics continuity.
Aeth says:
What kind of comics continuity?
Working-Class Wizard says:
A new kind. With new heroes.
Working-Class Wizard says:
However, I'd like its heroes to be more unique.
Working-Class Wizard says:
That is, they're fewer in number than in DC and Marvel, and there's less similarity in power between individual heroes.
Aeth says:
What about ones with completely useless powers?
Aeth says:
Like Convulsion Man. He'd have the ability to go into convulsions at will.
Working-Class Wizard says:
No.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I want the continuity to run somewhat seriously.
Aeth says:
What about problems with super heroes and normal humans mating?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Whether or not the offspring will be "superhuman"?
Aeth says:
Whether or not the offspring will live.
Aeth says:
The heroes shouldn't wear skin-tight clothing unless it's appropriate for the abilities...unless they look good in skin-tight outfits.
Working-Class Wizard says:
A cape isn't practical. It may be able to misdirect gunfire, but it becomes caught in doors, etc.
Aeth says:
How common would superheroes be in the continuity?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Maybe two-dozen worldwide.
Aeth says:
The heroes should construct a facility designed to hold supervillians.
Working-Class Wizard says:
The heroes won't necessarily know or work with each other.
Working-Class Wizard says:
At least initially.
Aeth says:
After they learn of each other, then.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Some won't even fight crime, per se.
Working-Class Wizard says:
One I've envisioned, The Futurian, comes from our (possible) future to curb an alien threat.
Working-Class Wizard says:
He isn't interested in standard supervillains, He'd rather research his enemy.
Working-Class Wizard says:
But I like the prison facility idea.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Ideally, they'd set it somewhere remote.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Like Antarctica, or the Moon.
Aeth says:
Solitairy confinement for those captured.
Aeth says:
We can't have villians uniting in prison to plot greater evils.
Working-Class Wizard says:
They may have one wing for the criminal, and another for the criminally insane.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'm thinking the facility should be Lunar,.
Aeth says:
Yes, villians with henchmen couldn't summon the henchmen as easily.
Working-Class Wizard says:
However, that leaves practicality questions.
Working-Class Wizard says:
They'd need some method to either transport air to the facility, or create it.
Aeth says:
Hmm...what about a biodome type facility with a vast forest to produce the oxygen supplanted with some sort of filter?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Good idea.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Or a biodome with an algea ocean surrounding the prison.
Aeth says:
Hmm...Rare tree species could be grown there under my idea.
Aeth says:
Giving a back-up source should the species become extinct on Earth.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes, but I'd set them in another dome, far away from supervillains.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Imagine someone with pyrokinesis letting loose...
Aeth says:
The facility could be designed with materials that "contain" such abilities.
Aeth says:
That might be more sci-fi than you envisioned, though.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes. But I'd prefer not to take unnecessary risks.
Working-Class Wizard says:
No, that's fine.
Working-Class Wizard says:
But I still think the rare trees should be seperated.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Maybe we could populate the dome with artificially engineered plants?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Ones with low upkeep.
Aeth says:
Maybe we could populate the actual prison area with carnivorous plants.
Working-Class Wizard says:
An interesting idea. Curb escapees.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Perhaps the prison, itself, could be a living plant?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Its designed to survive low pressures, but needs a mutual relation with oxygen-breathing organisms to survive.
Aeth says:
It could feed off of super powers.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes. Or off of radiation. Or carbon dioxide. Or whatever.
Working-Class Wizard says:
A hero with plant based powers could mould the plant's interior to make it more like a prison.
Aeth says:
Feeding off super powers would help explain how the facility repressed powers.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Point.
Working-Class Wizard says:
We've established the location and nature of the facility.
Working-Class Wizard says:
What about the staff?
Working-Class Wizard says:
The heroes' team could rotate responsibilities.
Aeth says:
I was thiking of a facility that could run with little or no staff.
Aeth says:
What about a neutral alien race?
Working-Class Wizard says:
I was thinking the same thing.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Perhaps the race has formed a mutual relationship with the plant-prison.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Feeding off of its tubers and gathering supervillains to feed it in return.
Aeth says:
That would work...and could provide a storyline at some point.
Aeth says:
Imagine if that prison-plant wasn't the only one. A rogue member of the race could wildly go about rounding up any being with super powers to imprison in the plant.
Working-Class Wizard says:
For what reason? Perhaps the prison-plant gathers all powers into a single organ, and the rogue wishes to harvest the organ to gain immortality?
Aeth says:
Or possibly to gain all the powers.
Working-Class Wizard says:
What about individual villains and heroes?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Who are they, and what are their powers?
Aeth says:
We should try to use powers that aren't already used or ones that haven't been used alot.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I agree.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Of course, we can't avoid some standards.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Like flight or superstrength.
Aeth says:
We could try to put a spin on them.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Like having conditional powers?
Working-Class Wizard says:
For insance, you can increase altitude, put you need a motor to fly horizontally?
Working-Class Wizard says:
That might be too silly.
Aeth says:
Imagine a hero that has to meditate for 2 hours every 24 hours or lose the powers until he meditates 2 hours for every day missed.
Working-Class Wizard says:
A good one.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Would his powers be martial-arts themed?
Aeth says:
Possibly.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'm thinking of a hero, perhaps named "The Titan", who's invincible.
Working-Class Wizard says:
But he doens't have any other powers.
Working-Class Wizard says:
He can take it, he just can't dish it out.
Working-Class Wizard says:
No flight, no superstrength. But he can take a nuke to the chest and walk away.
Aeth says:
He could act as a shield for a hero with psychic abilities.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes. And an agency could provide him experimental weapons to fight with.
Aeth says:
Would he be able to survive, say, in outer space without a suit?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes.
Aeth says:
Or, would he be invulnerable only to physical attacks?
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'm thinking everything.
Working-Class Wizard says:
The catch is, he WANTS to die.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Since supervillains can't harm him, they've systematically kill his entire family.
Working-Class Wizard says:
So he has nothing left to live for.
Aeth says:
That could make him wreckless...something the other heroes would have to take into consideration when bringing him along.
Working-Class Wizard says:
And he sees the futility of his actions; if he puts one villain away, another would appear to take his place.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Good observation.
Working-Class Wizard says:
What about supervillains? What would motivate them, say, to conquer the world?
Aeth says:
Why would they want to conquer the world? Couldn't they have more limited goals?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yes. That's why I said, "What would motivate them, say, to conquer the world?"
Working-Class Wizard says:
The say means "for example".
Working-Class Wizard says:
I lean toward villains who are either mad, or believe their actions are justified.
Aeth says:
What about a villian that only wants to eliminate one of the heroes because that hero failed to save his/her family?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Or was indirectly responsible for their deaths?
Aeth says:
Yes.
Aeth says:
It could've happened in the middle of a large fight.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Debris falls on the man's wife, killing her.
Aeth says:
What about a villian that only wants to wipe out one race?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Exactly.
Working-Class Wizard says:
A superpowered "Aryan" might use his powers to establish a Fourth Reich.
Aeth says:
Or a hero that originally fought against a specific act, say, child molestation takes it too far and begins killing anyone who shows pedophiliac tendencies?
Working-Class Wizard says:
What about powers would the villains have?
Aeth says:
Some could be tech based.
Working-Class Wizard says:
(I'm thinking some won't have powers at all. They could just use their resources and cunning to trap their nemises.)
Working-Class Wizard says:
That's practical.
Aeth says:
Or, they could've been heroes if they hadn't led a troubled life.
Aeth says:
We could have some villians be corporations. That may prove troubling to some heroes.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yeah.
Working-Class Wizard says:
That's actually a very good idea.
Working-Class Wizard says:
What would be the corporation's goals?
Aeth says:
Hmm...how about slavery?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Of humans?
Aeth says:
Yes.
Aeth says:
Or, anti-environmental goals?
Working-Class Wizard says:
That's too simplistic.
Working-Class Wizard says:
And I don't want the continuity to preach a left-wing message.
Aeth says:
How about global domination?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Too contrive.
Working-Class Wizard says:
But its proved good throughout the ages, so...
Aeth says:
We could also have sub-plots within the corporation. Like, one of the up-and-coming execs could want to stop the domination plans.
Aeth says:
He could slowly become more depraved and become a villian in his own right.
Working-Class Wizard says:
This is exactly the tone I'm aiming for.
Aeth says:
That would provide yet another stumbling block for the heroes.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I have an interesting plot.
Working-Class Wizard says:
An alien civilization threatens to invade Earth.
Working-Class Wizard says:
And...
Working-Class Wizard says:
They're much more intelligent than we are, and they communicate telepathically. So
Working-Class Wizard says:
Seeing us, they think we're no more than other animals, and treat us as such.
Working-Class Wizard says:
They demolish our buildings to make room for their own.
Working-Class Wizard says:
They may even eat us as food.
Aeth says:
That sounds kinda like "Independence Day."
Working-Class Wizard says:
I know.
Working-Class Wizard says:
But the aliens won't be as violent.
Working-Class Wizard says:
They'll actually send workers to earth to construct housing buildings.
Working-Class Wizard says:
And scientists to study the local flora and fauna, including us.
Aeth says:
We should probably get back to heroes...
Working-Class Wizard says:
Yeah.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'm thinking we should limit heroes to one per type.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I.e. one speedster character, one space aliean, etc.
Aeth says:
What about a hero that can telepathically see anywhere in the universer, but what he/she sees isn't necessarily happening at that moment?
Working-Class Wizard says:
Would the scope of the visions drive him mad?
Aeth says:
Possibly.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'm thinking such a character would go mad, and be locked in an asylum.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Heroes would consult him, and he'd say things like...
Working-Class Wizard says:
"Captain Doom? That can't be you! Why, you died fifty years ago."
Aeth says:
What about heroes that have to choose between powers or safety of the planet? Like one that has to absorb large amounts of energy, like those created by nuclear explosions, to keep his powers.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I've thought about this.
Aeth says:
He could be a reserve-type hero.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Perhaps a hero so radioactive he either has to stay away from humanity, or wear a containment suit.
Working-Class Wizard says:
He longs for human affection, but can never feel a woman's touch.
Aeth says:
What about a hero that has sound-based powers?
Working-Class Wizard says:
What do you mean?
Aeth says:
He can generate audio frequencies at any time and of any strength he wishes.
Aeth says:
They could use his powers to shatter doors and such.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Or bones.
Working-Class Wizard says:
If he met their resonance frequency.
Aeth says:
He could demolish villian hideouts.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Would his powers emanate from his throat?
Aeth says:
Yes. Anything else would be a bit absurd.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Good. They can be supressed that way.
Aeth says:
He could also be deaf.
Working-Class Wizard says:
...so he isn't conscious of his voice's volume.
Aeth says:
And, so he couldn't be used to easily bypass voice-controlled security.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I like this hero.
Working-Class Wizard says:
What is his origin story?
Aeth says:
Hmm...
Working-Class Wizard says:
I'd say "genetic mutation" but that's too simplistic.
Aeth says:
What about an alien origin to his power? Like he was accidentally deafened by aliens during an experiment, but it gave him such control over his voice.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Sounds reasonable.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Or he could be the result of an experiment by a cosmic entity.
Working-Class Wizard says:
One with a cruel sense of irony and humor.
Working-Class Wizard says:
"The Jester", perhaps, who bestows powerful gifts but takes too much as payment.
Aeth says:
He could play the part of semi-villian.
Working-Class Wizard says:
Exactly what I was thinking.
Working-Class Wizard says:
I have an idea for another villain.
Working-Class Wizard says:
He has to take human lives to survive. He doesn't want to, but his instincts impel him toward survival.
Working-Class Wizard says:
He tries to kill only criminals, but his blood-lust often bests him.
Working-Class Wizard says:
The heroes don't want to kill him, so they must find away to let him survive.
Working-Class Wizard says:
We'll have to continue this discussion later.